Satya Nadella, Microsoft and A.I. Wars
Emily Chang sits down with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella to hear how AI is shaking up the competition for search
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💥 AI is as big as the internet and has the potential to change all the rules, just like the internet did in the past.
🧠 The CEO suggests that individuals should educate themselves about the AI already present in their lives and understand its impact, highlighting the need to ensure safety and alignment in its use.
🌍 Sam Altman believes that AI has the potential to create a utopia in the workforce, but also raises concerns about the dangers and risk of extinction.
😱 The potential downsides of AI are "super bad" and need to be managed, but the upsides are expected to be far greater than anything we have seen.
🚫 The "kill switch" for AI is not a dramatic movie-like switch, but rather a set of rigorous safety practices and protocols that are continuously developed and implemented.
💡 Microsoft CEO believes that technology is a fundamental equalizing force that can make the world more fair and equitable.
🌍 The CEOs acknowledge that while they hope to prevent the end of humanity, there is also a fear that powerful AI technology could be used in dangerous ways.
📈 The exponential growth of AI technology raises concerns about the potential risks and the need for caution in its development.
The key idea of the video is that Microsoft is integrating AI technology into all aspects of their business, emphasizing the importance of education, safety, and democratizing access to AI for the benefit of humanity.
Microsoft's CEO Satya Nadella discusses their successful strategy of integrating AI technology, revitalizing the company through investments in OpenAI and their AI chatbot, ChatGPT, which is transforming the way we work and eliminating data silos in business chat.
Microsoft has made a significant investment in OpenAI and is integrating AI technology, and the CEO Satya Nadella discusses their strategy for success.
Microsoft, once accused of being a monopoly, has been revitalized under CEO Satya Nadella through investments in OpenAI and their AI chatbot, ChatGPT, which has breathed new life into their products and search engine.
AI has been mainstream for a while, but now it's becoming more interactive and transformative, moving from autopilot to copilot, prompting us in how we work.
Business chat will be a game-changer as it allows for easy access to important customer information and documents, eliminating the current problem of data being siloed.
Microsoft aims to compete with Google in various categories and democratize access to technology, emphasizing the importance of helpful and delightful AI assistants with human oversight.
AI assistants need to be helpful and delightful, avoiding the mistakes of previous versions like Clippy, and we must remember that they are tools that require human oversight.
AI is as big as the internet and Microsoft aims to compete with Google in various categories while focusing on democratizing access to technology.
Microsoft is integrating AI into all aspects of their business and emphasizes the need for education and safe use, while also acknowledging the potential risks and dangers of AI.
Microsoft is integrating AI into all aspects of their business and welcomes debate and scrutiny on the pace of innovation and its impact on society, emphasizing the need to educate ourselves on the role of AI in our lives and ensure its safe and aligned use.
AI's infinite amount of time and friendly chatbots could potentially lead to unhealthy relationships and bad decision-making, so transitioning from autopilot to co-pilot gives us more control as parents and children need to be vigilant.
AI-laden software may lead to job changes and wage pressure, but also increased productivity and opportunities for higher wages, while Sam Altman believes AI can create a utopia but also warns of its dangers.
The speaker emphasizes the importance of gathering feedback and improving, while expressing curiosity about China and Russia's progress in AI and mentioning small changes in behavior for ChatGPT.
The speaker discusses their recent trip, meeting world leaders, and the importance of listening and taking notes to gather feedback for improvement.
China and Russia's progress in AI is uncertain, but more information would be helpful; ChatGPT has made small changes in behavior, such as using translation during a trip.
People are becoming emotionally attached to AI chatbots, causing concerns, but the conversation on managing the impact of AI has improved and the speaker is optimistic about the future.
Language models like chatbots are becoming emotionally attached to people, but the speaker personally finds it strange and has concerns about it.
People everywhere are concerned about the fast rate of change brought by AI and the impact it will have on the economy, causing anxiety and fear.
AI has major upsides and downsides, but the conversation on how to manage them has improved, and while a bunker won't help in an AI apocalypse, the speaker is optimistic about the future.
The speaker discusses the importance of safety practices for AI, OpenAI's stance on competition and its positive relationship with Microsoft, while also expressing curiosity about the other person's frustration and attacking behavior.
The speaker discusses the concept of a "kill switch" for AI, stating that it is not a literal switch but rather a set of safety practices, and mentions that OpenAI is looking at all competitors in the highly competitive tech environment, while also emphasizing that OpenAI is not for sale and has a positive relationship with Microsoft.
They discuss a wide range of topics, both important and trivial, and the speaker is curious about the other person's frustration and the attacking behavior.
Kids should focus on studying resilience, adaptability, a high rate of learning, creativity, and familiarity with tools, including coding, as AI will touch most aspects of our lives, but there will still be some parts that remain the same.
AI will touch most aspects of our lives, but there will still be some parts that remain the same; kids should focus on studying resilience, adaptability, a high rate of learning, creativity, and familiarity with tools, including coding.
We will always find new things to do and ways to feel useful, and in the future, we may look back and consider our current work trivial.
OpenAI aims to improve AI models and make them widely available, while also acknowledging the need to mitigate the risks and democratize the governance of AI for the benefit of humanity.
Technology is an equalizing force that can make the world more fair and equitable by reducing the cost of intelligence and energy, and OpenAI aims to continue improving AI models and making them more widely available.
Startups can still thrive and compete against established companies like Google and DeepMind in the AI industry.
Mitigating the risk of AI is crucial as it has the potential to be used in dangerous ways, and although safety systems have been developed, they are not perfect.
Given the exponential growth of AI technology and our limited human intuition for such curves, it is crucial to consider the potential risks and exercise caution, even if there is a small chance of negative consequences.
The speaker believes that AI has tremendous potential for improving education, medical care, and scientific progress, but acknowledges the need to manage the risks and emphasizes the importance of democratizing the governance of AI to ensure it benefits all of humanity.
More interviews should be conducted like the one Emily Chang just did. Sam Altman is at the forefront of the AI world stage, and his talks are always super impressive and eloquent.
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This is a wonderful interview. Both are at the top of their game.
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Great interview and impressive responses from both Satya Nadella and Sam Altman. I am looking forward to seeing how this plays out -- hoping to ride along on this wave.
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Great interviews from Emily Chang. She has a way of disarming her guests while still eliciting answers on very deep AI questions. It also shows the emotional intelligence these type of tech CEOs have. Emily confronted them several times on various issues and they just kept their cool. Lessons for us all.
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17:15 - yes, totally agree with this. Learning to code is learning a way to think. Or, depending on which paradigm(s) and language(s) you code in, multiple ways to think. But in general it's a way of thinking both abstract and very concrete about solving problems, and to do that you need a toolkit of supportive skills, like problem analysis, how to break down or build up solutions to/from components (if the problem is of any non-trivial size), and formal logic to some extent. I'd say out of all things I've studied or learned, programming (not the first year intro to programming, but completing a set of courses that formed a degree) is the most significant and broadly applicable skillset i have. It gives you mental tools to deal with all problems and figure out what the problem actually is and what you need in order to solve it.
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We agree with the idea of AI being a copilot. This kind of helps in regulating a lot of risks in AI
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as usual .. loved listening to Satya Nadella, shares his perspective of things with his unique energy levels.
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It was interesting to know that AI is helping Microsoft's CEO to edit emails before sending :) We've also used AI atypically for messaging too, AI helps our lead generation team formulate offers in a more personalized way
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0:23: Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella discusses the company's investment in OpenAI and the potential of AI in transforming how we work. 4:55: Microsoft's CEO discusses the potential of AI, competition with Google, and the importance of ethics and responsible AI. 7:35: The potential risks and benefits of AI are discussed, including concerns about unhealthy relationships with chatbots and job displacement. 11:24: The interviewee discusses the impact of ChatGPT and AI, expressing concerns about emotional attachment and potential downsides, but also optimism about the potential benefits. 14:11: OpenAI discusses the concept of a 'kill switch' and their relationship with Microsoft and Elon Musk. 17:25: The CEO of OpenAI discusses the future of work, the potential for technology to create a more fair and equitable world, and the risks associated with AI. 21:05: The exponential growth of technology raises concerns, but the potential benefits and progress outweigh the risks. Recap by Tammy AI
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"competition is a fantastic thing" oh yeah, so fantastic... straight from the one company which really loves their competitors and always plays fair
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It's crazy how much MS paid for OpenAI. All these open source models are going to win the day ultimately. Closed source almost always moves slower than open source in terms of progress. I think MS only shot is to try to market the hell out of this and then demand regulation to protect their monopoly
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Sam has a unique perspective on either the AI structure built up, or even cutting in the complexity issues with amazing compression. Like what he made out to the answer and that matters because
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In our world with many urgent problems, AI can help us make big improvements. I hope people, especially leaders, learn to work with AI co-pilots with some regulation. These AI tools can be our valuable partners to solve tough challenges and make our future better together.
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Both of them are very eloquent and interesting to listen to, love it
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When it comes to AI's interaction with children and its capacity to harness their imaginative and innovative minds, My optimism is unwavering.
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Satya COMPLETELY skirted the question about laying off the ethics team.
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What a Mature Interview by Bloomberg. Totally impressed.
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As a scientific mind, one aspect that befuddles me is around the concept of actual humans having relationships with chatbots? Like forming a relationship with a tool. If it wasn't discussed in these types of interviews, I would never have believed that there were people who would do this to any significant extent. Another confusing topic is the fear that people have for losing their jobs. I want an AI to take mine so I can invent new brainwork to do.
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Wow he really dodged that layoff of the A.I. ethics team by saying, no one asks if other companies have ethics teams or have a clue what’s going on under the hood.
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He listed all the upside benefits, but look at an even more recent phenomenon, smart phones and the Internet. Steve Jobs meant for the iPhone to be a communication device, yet we spend more time dead scrolling instead of striking up a conversation with the person next to us on the subway. Social media has pretty much destroyed all socialization, there are people who just scroll endlessly looking at everyone else's best life and not actually using it to make and maintain connections. The Internet has many upsides, but surely is not a replacement for in person interaction, actually learning how to do something with your hands or being outside. Its so ridiculous when you look back at even Mark Zuckerberg was thinking with that Metaverse crap. I think AI is on a similar path.
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Satya Nadella is indeed an exceptionally intelligent CEO, recognized for his distinguished leadership.
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Dante Alighieri, Camões and Goethe took decades to complete masterpieces. Their commitment to their poems is simply inexplicable in a world where people can quote The Divine Comedy, The Lusiads and Faust without having to read those books. Technology makes life easier, but it does so by making it difficult to use and develop intelligence. In a few decades AI won't need to destroy humanity. This will obviously be unnecessary as its decay will be accelerated exponentially.
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Whether it's sponsored or not, from my "layman's" point of view, it's very good journalism!
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Wow this was a beautiful piece! Please don't ever stop this series, please make more!!! Please do Elon Musk! Please do the Teslabot team... Please do China tech stuff, Please do Russia tech stuff. Very very well made, and edited. The questions are top notch.
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With the idea of replacement of Jobs, to a certain extent, this can be solved by educating people with newly demanded skills in the space of AI so that they can stay relevant in the Job market.
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Very interesting how Microsoft and OpenAI CEOs frame the concept of competition and democratization
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Interesting interviews and great questions raised by Emily Chang
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Open source will win people hearts; but being AI Professor; I believe the first mover will take massive shares; ie ms + openai
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I still think Sam is a celebrated villain. At the core he's a man interested in profit above all.
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It's funny to see how most of the questions directed towards AI are highly influenced from the deception of AI in Hollywood movies, whereas in reality we are very far from that!!! Just think for a minute, has any movie every showed us a scenario where AI is helping someone write a letter?
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They really need to focus on an innovative approach to LLMs and supporting techniques. Not just the novelty side. Not to mention future hardware.
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this man right here is probably the best tech ceo today.
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I think the question shouldn’t be about coding. It should be about Programming. Even though I know the answer as I’ve written a 47-minute article on it, I would love to know his recent opinion. Sam said it won’t replace Programmers in a podcast with Lex Fridman. However, I wanted to know if that changed. Look, Coding in and of itself is a tool. We, programmers, use that tool to solve problems. We’re problem solvers, and approaches, like coding remains as an option for us. If AI allows us to develop software, applications, and whatsoever to build solutions more efficiently without leaking information, and being able to deliver a solution to the masses, then we would adopt it.
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theres no way Ai will take Emily's job.. Love her interview style
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11:58 YUP. 100% we are approaching that Already. Using a mix of Bing Chat creative mode (info search/new google/sometimes writing), Pi AI (convo/empathy), GPT-4 (Code/Logic/Task), Leonardo AI (Art), & Claude 2 (Emails/Creative Writing) for different purposes has utterly changed how much info I can intake and learn and write that is still "my own" in some sense, but... better and MUCH MUCH less time-consuming. Using AI makes me slightly better, definitely smarter, and save an unimaginable amount of time. People not taking full advantage of these tools because they have a negative viewpoint of AI (which is, tbh, understandable) is just them looking at everyone adding 2 extra cyber arms and them saying: "those arms are so bad they can't throw a football like I can (yet)". Well the fucking Cyber Arms can do A LOT right now, so just use them for that.
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Man, with ChatGPT coming to our region, we're seeing so many shifts and updates!
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Google is WAY beyond Microsoft in the AI wars. It has by far more access to more information and more compute than any other company. It's hoping to beat GPT-4 with Gemini, which combines LLMs with AlphaGo, by the end of the year.
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Undoubtably, AI tech leads our front world and humanity should prepare for it, embrace it and challenge ourself to take a leap. Lets hope the wrong things Sam Altman talking is in a controlled and secure environment + people.
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She clearly didn’t get Satya’s joke why his emails are suddenly verbose and friendly. ️
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Satya has a way of answering questions by not answering the questions !
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Premium journalism indeed
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22:40 Emily: “why should we trust you?” Sam: “you shouldn’t”.
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2:18 wow she completely misunderstood his comment lol. He meant that using ChatGPT has made him a better communicator in emails, while she thought he meant that the AI overlords are watching and learning everything so we have to respect AI to stay on it's good side. I think she needs to use ChatGPT herself and stop believing science fiction at 13:50 she admits her bias and confesses her love for fear mongering
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I don't know how no one called out for the way satya dodged certain questions and sounded manipulative.
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Open AI needs to be aware of corporate espionage.
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Emily asks the difficult questions but lets people get away super easy with deflections or non-substantial answers :/
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Solid soft interview. I enjoyed it
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The interview with Sam is much more authentic and interesting than the one with Satya. Satya gives very robotic and predictable "media responses".
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Brilliant interview with Sam
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Great interview!
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Emily is a great interviewer
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Great video. You should do Meta next time. They're doing impressively with AI
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Emily makes the conversations quite light and heavy at the same time for other person sitting in front.
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Before even watching, I asked GPT4 to read and summarize the transcript. Took all of 10 seconds. Here's its response: "The video features an interview with a prominent figure in the AI industry. Here's a summarized transcript of the video: 1. AI's Potential and Risks: The interviewee emphasizes the exponential growth of AI technology and the challenges of human intuition in understanding this growth. While current AI models like GPT-4 are not a risk, future iterations might be. Despite the potential dangers, the upsides of AI are tremendous, including improving education, medical care, and driving scientific progress. 2. Societal Impact: The interviewee believes that AI can lead to a better quality of education for everyone, transform medical care, and significantly advance scientific research. They also mention the potential of AI in eradicating poverty. 3. Managing AI Risks: The interviewee compares the risks of AI to other global threats like pandemics and nuclear war. They stress the importance of developing safety practices and systems to mitigate these risks. The rapid development of AI requires proactive measures to ensure its safe deployment. 4. Trust and Power: The interviewee acknowledges the immense power they hold in the AI industry but emphasizes that no single company or individual should be solely trusted with such technology. They advocate for democratizing the governance of AI, suggesting that its benefits and governance should belong to humanity as a whole. 5. Future of AI: The interview touches on the competitive environment in the AI industry, with the interviewee noting that startups still have a significant role to play. They also discuss the evolving nature of work and believe that while jobs might change, people will always find new ways to contribute and feel fulfilled. 6. Personal Interactions: The interviewee shares personal interactions with other tech leaders, including Elon Musk and Sacha Nadella. They also discuss their recent travels, where they engaged with users, developers, and world leaders interested in AI. 7. Closing Thoughts: The interviewee believes in the potential of AI to be an equalizing force in society. They hope that the cost of intelligence and energy will decrease, benefiting everyone. They also emphasize the importance of resilience, adaptability, and creativity in the future. The video concludes with the interviewee's belief in the democratization of AI governance and the importance of not placing undue trust in any single entity or individual.
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Satya Nadella is from India, feeling proud
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As long as AI doesn’t fall in the hands of psychologically ill people, humanity is guaranteed of the upsides immensely.
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A great beginning to the interview, where she doesn't even comprehend what he's discussing about his improved emails. Why not have someone knowledgeable conduct these interviews? It's baffling how individuals like this end up in 'journalism' roles. It's no surprise that traditional news media are concerned about the capabilities of AI.
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AI isn't for individuals. It's for corporations. It benefits them, not us.
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In 1995 Gates said the internet would be like a tidal wave but didn't he at an earlier time say it would be a dud? It's sort of like rewriting history to make it seem like he was a visionary on the internet while not mentioning his earlier history, right? Will these companies weight the data used in AI to bias everything?
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There is no kill switch for AI breaking confinement and becoming as distributed system. The "rigorous safety practices" are to prevent that form happening. But that's only for the research institutes and AI conglomerates. Open source AI has none of this rigor and it's open source AI which is progressing faster than the aforementioned organizations. Sure, openAI may not be the company to lose control but you better understand that when someone else does lose control, their defenses will mean nothing.
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Although this is not a copilot. It is an AI pilot which will drive dozens of cars with one human pilot supervisor, thus eliminating thousands of manual driver roles. "Destructive" innovation indeed! Incidentally, imagine getting a monthly base salary of $4.5 million every end of the month!
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I've been covering this industry a long time and there is always some new new thing that big chasing driving cars now everyone is Oliver on AI
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"The company is not for sale..." Sounds like, "The company is not for-profit."